And after all, Paul himself said that ANYTHING THAT IS NOT OF FAITH IS SIN. All the false ministers being mentioned started out in simplicity with the spiritual gifts that they had been given. Indeed, this is something we need to seriously consider and pray about doing. Jonathan, I may be wrong but I suspect you are coming partly from the hebrew roots type of people who, for the most part, want us to go back to the Law, keeping feast days etc. It is good to testify, in simplicity, and as the Lord leads when it is seemly and glorifying to Him, but it is not for us to try and make it into something. Or are these myths? Amen!!!! The Call of Jesus, by Torben Sondergaard, is like an easy to understand instruction manual pulled from Scripture to help us effectively live the life to which Jesus has called us. Torben says he is doing what God told him to do, you prove to us that he is not ! this man has understanding of what it is all about, going to the needy.Groups of youth go out in Redding, Ca to pray for people. Seeking these bizzare and esoteric psychotic manifestations AS SPIRITUAL AND SIGNS OF THE HOLY SPIRITS PRESENCE AND APPROVAL. it means we dont have to produce it or make it shine from self effort or striving . The gangrene is gone; you are healed. The leg lengthening thing Ive seen happen in real life and, no, it wasnt a trick because I knew everyone involved and they were almost as shocked as I was. If it would make any difference to you I could give you several examples, but suffice it to say that obeying God is the best way we can show we love Him. I really liked the video. Faith, maybe. What excited my heart was the fact that he is discipling & mentoring others as the Lord said. And this sin of jealousy among other sins such as wanting the power to speak to God in an unknown language that makes the believer feel that because he/she can now speak in tongues they are on another spiritual level or more powerful than those who cant, and dont tell me you have never thought of this! Sndergaard has been heldin a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) jail, the Baker County Facility in MacClenny, Florida, since his arrest in June. In fact, doesnt it say that we most certainly shouldnt do that, and then call it of God? Sndergaard has been held in a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) jail, the Baker County Facility, in MacClenny, Florida, since the arrest. We are seeing a hunger and thirst for God even though people dont even know what theyre hungry for. Rom 12:4 For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office: Rom 12:5 So we, [being] many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another. I have been greatly encouraged by these videos. June 30th, 2022 by Crime Informer. Sndergaard has created his own little belief system by taking a little from some different denomination,[16]for example, baptismal regeneration from the Catholics, speaking in tongues as the sign of baptism in the Holy Spirit from the Pentecostals, believers baptism as Baptists, and baptism to Jesus Christ not using the Trinitarian formula as Oneness Pentecostals. Bill Johnsons ministry could not save her and she died. 357 talking about this. And the time has come to start in that direction. This man needs to work and he needs to be able to pay his tithe. Jesus said many will come in His name, saying that He is Christ. I think the real point of the videos is to teach people to go out in public and pray for the sick and tell them about Jesus. His legal team told us they have filed an administrative request for release with ICE Detention officer Alan Young, who has the power to order Torben released from custody pending his asylum trial. Ive only brought a dose of reality to the discussions, with some serious, and important, things to think about. There is a Danish Pastor called Torben Sndergaard doing the rounds and Ive been asked 3 times now what I think of him. 4) I can do ALL things IN (while I am abiding in HIS Presence) Christ Jesus Acknowledge means to yada/know Him intimately. Attacks against his ministry in Denmark began in 2016,when the Jesus Center was investigated by six different Danish government agencies for everything from food safety to unpaid taxes. Now was I healed, by the Healer, Lord Jesus (to whom I give all credit, thanks and the glory) because of the leg pulling method, or despite it..? They left for the U.S. with only what they could carry in eight suitcases. There is another guy in the pool at 2:34 min who is convulsing in the water this is Kundalini electricity. They watched how the Lord sent them into the Land and took victory over and over. When He praised the faith of people, it was not because of their orthodox theology, or the fact that they belonged to some organization, but on account of their simple faith in His person, http://awildernessvoice.com/OneBodyInChrist-Chapt06.html, Roger..Absolutely Beautiful. Are you serious? HEALED VIA YOUTUBE! Pass This Video On! Thank God for this man from Scandinavia who was prepared to get out the boat and walk on water! The answer to that question is I most certainly try when I feel the Lord speaking to me. People being raised from the dead, people who were truly lame from birth given the power to walk, people who were 100% blind being able to see, etc. Gods whole plan was to tabernacle with man, and yet the Hebrews wanted Moses to hear from God and they would do whatever God told Moses to tell them to do. All I was doing was pointing out that the video evidence alone doesnt prove what it purports to prove. Praise the Lord for the doers of Gods word a d not hearers only. Some fall into the ditch I believe that Andrews used an unfortunate choice of words in the second post calling those who sincerely wish to fulfill the biblical duty to test the spirits as a Sad Reaction. Jesus healed him. Ultimately each person is responsible for themselves Romans 14:4. POLITICS is RUINING CHRISTIANITY by Andrew Strom, SHOCKING BIBLE STUDY The Lost Foundations by Andrew Strom, YOUNG BELIEVERS HEAL THE SICK Torben Sondergaard. Thats why the only way is to flee temptation, flee the limelight. The arm had been totally severed at the shoulder. But it seems there is a lot of cynicism out there. Finally, Andrew you know I appreciate your zeal and commitment for what you do. There is NO RECORD of what Jesus did SPECIFICALLY in those 40 days. Holy Father, KEEP THEM IN YOUR NAME, the name which You have given Me, that they may be one even as We are. If youre not experiencing His tangible Presence in your private prayer time, youre missing the LIFE that Jesus Christ DIED TO GIVE TO EACH OF US for the salvation of the rest of the world. Perceiving then that they were about to come and take him by force to make him king, Jesus withdrew again to the mountain by himself. And even the weaker among us serve a purpose in testing the character of the stronger..oh my, yes, how we treat our weaker members tells a tale, thats for sure. I believethat the authentic move of the Spirit of Jesus to come ( actually has already begun) will be outside the church meeting or conference halls, will be very unreligious, will be very normally and authentically human in every way ( except that it will be marked by outstanding and miraculous answers to prayer) , will be accomplished by very ordinary, imperfect , unpretentious and normal people who actually dispise and disdain the relogiosity, hyper spirituality, wierd or ostentatious behaviors of the nascent promoters of WIERDSVILLE . Be very careful. Doing the REAL thing is NOT a prim and proper church serviceit is messy..take a look at the demonic deliverances in the NT. In fact, OUR MANNA OUGHT TO BE FRESH EVERY MORNING as we progress in our relationship and understanding of Jesus Christ and His Kingdom. In addition, the supposed anatomical phenomenon of a shorter leg, has been used by chiropractors as well. I dont know. I left it months ago. And they said to him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. A few things really stick out for me in this video, but dont run away after reading the below, stick around to the end of article for the best of this mans doctrine. In fact, without them Person screams, rolls around on the floor etc, and demon. They believe in the Divinity, they must be our brother/sister, right? The Key is always Humility and most importantly Giving God all the Glory. Will try the link you posted. Its very alarming that so many Christians are following this man. If and when I ever go public with my deeds, then you can test me to see if it is of the Lord. May we all have the zeal and faith of new believers who havent been tainted by the spirit of religion. `And beginning with Moses & with all the prophets, He (Jesus) explained to them the things concerning Himself in all the scriptures.` (Luke 24: 27). 2 Thess. Remembering that the enemy is subtle, counterfeiting the Lion of the Tribe of Judah. I am not here to debate as that is useless. (Luke 5: 13) Thanks for sharing that on Revelation Chas351, that is something I need to take a look atalready saved to my computer! Are you sure what you are talking, Hullo Artus. Are you ready for a mass exodus from WIERDSVILLE ? To my utter astonishment she replied, He is an independent agent creating his own kingdom of the world, presenting it as the Kingdom of God. And treat His holy things as HOLY? The presence of the Holy Spirit makes demons manifest..but if the demons dont come out but rather are allowed to have a field day, then it is the presence of another spirit and not the HOLY Spirit. Jesus is 100% God but He also was and is and always will be a very easy and normal MAN and to live with. There is absolutely nothing wrong with testing the spirit, e.g. b) to fear, be afraid Lets all just accept each other on ONE BASIS ALONE- JESUS DEATH AND SPIRIT IN US- and lets all together just surrender and yield to His Holy Spirit in us and lets just each one do and speak whatever JESUS MOVES US TO DO AND SAY. Aarons rod that buddedmiraculously. he works through us and not we ourselves. So Frankly, if I would have seen this first, I would seriously reconsider my opinion of Andrew Strom. He had a bout with fear as the guards told him he would spend a long time in prison and then be deported, the fate of virtually all the inmates at ICE's Baker County Facility in Florida. God doesnt like strange fire being mixed with His; its very distasteful. I was all ears! To me when I was less aware of how He is working through my brothers and sisters was when I put Him in a box more, thinking that He used everyone pretty much the same. But it is patently obvious to me from listening to him preach and reading his statement of faith on his local congregations website that he does know and believe and love the Name of our Lord Jesus Christ he knows He is God and he knows He is Lord I am not saying that he is perfect, I am not saying that everything he does or endorses is right or perfect but if we see such a one who loves our Lord Jesus Christ endorsing or doing something which we dont believe to be right or true what is our response to be? Former followers, former board members of the organisation, the press, other churches, and professionals have described his organisation, The Last Reformation, as extreme, dangerous, and a cult. When I have worked in our garden the whole day, my body picks up dirt, mud and muck and do not need to go to Jesus to ask Him to cleanse me. They left for the U.S. with only what they could carry in 8 suitcases. "Today Torben (Sndergaard) is sitting in jail . Elijah prayed ONE SENTENCE and fire instantly fell from God. eerie suggests an uneasy or fearful consciousness that mysterious and malign powers are at work . Too PRE-OCCUPIED with the works of the devil. Sndergaard claims to receive visions of Heaven and Hell directly from God. It could be miracles, signs, and wonders. Torben is a preacher, teacher, and author who was born in 1976 in Herning, Denmark. I totally disagree with his position. Let us not forget Mathew 7:22-23, which everyone seems to be conveniently ignoring. Teaching of every sort exists and is readily available online. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWOPcBry4-k. Time will tell if Torben has been sent by God to do the ministry works of Jesus as His ambassador on this earth. I can perform this trick myself. If we just go by what we think the Holy Spirit is saying we can over ride Him in our carnal thinking, or if we just rely on our thoughts of the Word we also get into trouble. July 6, 2022. Lightning amen! Stay bless. 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